![]() That was my first major disappointment where that lesson of hard work that my dad told me was going to make me successful, didn’t pan out. In the process, I got zero credit for all the hard work I put in. He reached out to Stanford and made a deal to combine our results. Of course, that put my boss into a tailspin. They were able to get the results into the hands of a top-tier journal before us to be published. Essentially, Stanford’s lab reached the same conclusions as us but they were a little bit more successful at that point. I didn’t know how articles were published. Unfortunately, I got some bad news that Stanford had scooped us and I’d actually never even heard that term. For me, I was hoping that this could springboard my career in science. Of course, the benefits to my boss was this was going to put him on a tenured track as a professor. After about one year working on this cancer biology project, we were excited, both me and my boss, to get some fantastic results around head-neck cancer stem cells and publish. As a junior researcher, you’re toiling away in the lab trying to get results for your boss so that you can publish that paper and get some credit. I got my job at a college as a researcher. You’ve got to put it to work, you’re going to be left behind in the workplace.” As much as I wanted to travel, I followed my dad’s advice. That’s numero uno important because you’ve just got your degree. After graduating from college, I decided to take a year off and try to figure out what it was that I wanted to do with that biology degree of mine. I didn’t want to let my dad down, but I didn’t feel like this was the correct path for me. I did not feel comfortable interacting with people, I had some social anxiety being forced into a high-pressure situation, having to deal with patients and family members, and of course, all the type As that go into medicine. ![]() I got my first job in a hospital, I realized that I hated it. When I got to college, I was excited to start pre-med and become a doctor. My dream, from a young age, was to become a doctor to check both of those boxes for my dad to make him proud. Growing up in a blue-collar household with a single dad, who instilled in me that hard work and education were the two paths that you had to cross for you to reach success. There are some other ways I can be successful.” Give us a little more of the background that caused you to shift from, “Hard work is not enough. Together, they have got everybody covered. He has a scientifically-proven field-tested technique to show men the quickest path to success by building all kinds of relationships that last. AJ said he bought into that concept that hard work is what determines success. Johnny said that his mission is to help guys overcome disruption in their lives, whether it’s in their relationships or their careers. Let me give you a snapshot of who these guys are. There’s not one problem a guy can have that these two guys, AJ Harbinger and Johnny Dzubak, can’t solve. I am honored to have two people I call friends that host their own amazing podcast called Art of Charm. They share their secrets backed by science on how to become more comfortable, stronger connections with people, and expressing yourself is an art form. ![]() I interview the hosts of the Art of Charm podcast, AJ and Johnny. If you’ve ever struggled with feeling awkward at a social gathering, you hate small talk, or have even dealt with feeling like an imposter, this episode is for you. The Art Of Charm With AJ Harbinger And Johnny Dzubak Join them as they dig deep into human behavior, the science behind it, and figure out what we do and why we do it. Through their years of coaching experience, AJ and Johnny help everyday people learn how to become higher performers, better spouses, partners, and co-workers. Together, they share about the things most people are struggling with, along with the importance of body language. They talk about their separate histories, AJ being in science and Johnny in music, and how it eventually brought them together to form The Art of Charm. AJ Harbinger and Johnny Dzubak from The Art of Charm, Inc. share their secrets, backed by science, on how to become more comfortable, showing how building stronger connections with people and expressing yourself are indeed an art form. If you’ve ever struggled with feeling awkward at a social gathering, hating small talk, or feeling like an imposter in your own body, then this episode is for you. The Resilient Leader With Christine Perakis
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